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Blitzkrieg1701, April 25th, 2014, 7:56 am

Wow, another LAAAAAAATE update. Sorry about this, guys. As I mentioned last time, Ichabod wasn't originally going to be in this bunch of comics, meaning they had to be rewritten at the laaaaast minute. Well, I did that for this page, aaaaand the rewrite wasn't very good, so I had to rewrite it a SECOND time. Go figure, being funny on command at 11:30 pm doesn't work that well.

I do think it was worth it, though. I like that first panel a lot. The shadows don't make a lot of literal sense (as w e've already seen there's no strong light source near the station) but it gives it a nice sense of scale. I also really like the subtle little suggestion of how long Avatar and Ichabod have known each other. We haven't really seen anything about their pre-Trigger/Layla adventures, that'd be interesting to see more about. (And that's not Nudge Nudge Wink Wink Artist Dropping Hints About The Future or whatever. I really hadn't though about that much before.)

And, of course, Layla being aggravated is always comedy gold. Speaking of which, VOTING INCENTIVE!

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Darius Drake (Guest), April 25th, 2014, 5:58 pm

@ Voting Incentive: That's adorable... mostly because it's cartoon characters, of course.

Layla, those things pressing against the back of your neck are Tabitha's.

Seros Senric (Guest), April 25th, 2014, 10:35 pm

I do like the implications in this page of Avatar/Ichabod before the comic started.
There has been a little of that earlier in the comic if I remember correctly.

So amusing.
No personal space.

Blitzkrieg1701, April 26th, 2014, 7:25 am

DD: Trying to think of a tactful way of making this joke... but if it's Tabitha we're talking about, Layla doesn't have to worry about getting poked by too much back there.

SS: As it stands, I don't even know if Avatar was already on the ship when Ichabod showed up. This is the sort of thing I really should have worked out already, right?

Darius Drake (Guest), April 27th, 2014, 4:18 am

@ Ichabod being on the ship before Avatar showing up: Personally, now that you mentioned it, I'm thinking that Ichabod probably WAS on the ship when Avatar showed up. The reason why I'm thinking this is due to Princess Rheiko.

Princess Rheiko disapeared over a year before the story began. The Mad Scientist who suggested that Avatar is Princess Rheiko should have had SOMETHING logical connecting the two. As such, I suggest that Avatar was picked up around the time that Rheiko disapeared. This is supported by Avatar stating that she was floating in space before the revolution started, which can be implied to say that she was found either during or after the Jehtkyo Uprising.

Relevant Pages: 60, 349 & 350.

Of course, this is only correct if Ichabod's been on the ship for over a year. But I think that that's alright to assume, since he's had one set of companions suggested to have been killed on him.

Blitzkrieg1701, April 27th, 2014, 6:21 am

Well dang. That's a lot more thought than I put into the issue. Well done!

I will point out, however, that everyone used fairly imprecise language in regards to past events, and for good reason. Layla says that Rheiko disappeared "well over a year ago" which could technically mean any number of years. (after all, it's doubtful she'd know the precise date off the top of her head) Also, Avatar's statement about being in space "before the uprising" was only meant to show that Rheiko couldn't have been turned into her AFTER it. Technically, Captain Crosby could have rescued her before the uprising happened as well and the statement would still be true. Furthermore, it's unlikely that the date Crosby found her would be common knowledge. We know Avatar doesn't like Mad Scientists and wouldn't want to attract their attention, and the Cap'n just isn't the type to go sharing information anyway. Thus, it's possibly Avatar could have lived on this dinky little ship for years without anyone hearing about it (well, anyone who'd care) Finally, it's well established that Dr. Jarre, like most Mad Scientists, is... well... a little loopy. While you and I would wait to make sure the dates on our pet theories add up (like we're doing right now!), she seems fine with stopping at "Wow, if Urban Legend A and Urban Legend B were connected, it'd be AWESOME!"

That's not to day that Avatar definitively WAS on the ship before Ichabod, just that there's room for it to go either way. If and when I do write some kind of flashback, I want what happens to be dictated by what'd make the best story, not what Previous Plot Points 3, 47, 238 & 524 say HAVE to happen.

...and can I just say how filled with geeky pride I am that we can even HAVE a conversation like this about my silly little comic? YAY!!!

Seros Senric (Guest), April 27th, 2014, 7:03 am

Since there's been an "Ichabod on ship before Avatar", I'm going with a "Avatar on ship before Ichabod" because that way it would make more sense that Ichabod doesn't know how long she was floating in space.
I imagine Ichabod would be able to discover the approximate date of Avatar's creation without too much difficulty (since I'd think he'd be able to find out when the mad scientists gathered to discuss the future of the universe and decided to create/alter Avatar)
I can't actually remember if Ichabod has actually implied that he doesn't know how long Avatar was in space though...

I'd do a more properly researched thing here but I unfortunately don't have time.

Blitzkrieg1701, April 27th, 2014, 7:31 am

Unless I've forgotten something, Ichabod hasn't indicated anything one way or the other. Off the top of my head, the only thing I can remember is back on page 31, where he didn't seem to know why Captain Crosby lets Avatar ride for free. That COULD be taken to mean that he wasn't on board when this arrangement was worked out... but it could also mean that the Cap'n just doesn't explain himself to anybody. Again, keeping the options open. (Unless I AM forgetting something, which is always possible)

Darius Drake (Guest), April 28th, 2014, 5:31 pm

While your arguement is valid, some of the points I made were not countered in the manner I meant to present them. Sorry about misstating them.

Timing for Rheiko: The term "well over a year ago" usually implies between one and three years MAXIMUM. That's the time basis I intended to use for my arguement.

Dr. Jarre: My arguement with him is more about when HE heard about Avatar's appearance. If he heard about Avatar's appearance around the same time that Rheiko disapeared, then the "reasonable" basis for his thoughts appears.

The "discovery" of Avatar being kept secret: ...okay, I have no arguement against this one. This is an good reason to be able to have the decision go either way without breaking anything.

Blitzkrieg1701, April 28th, 2014, 7:02 pm

If you'll permit me one wildly nitpicky aside that's totally unrelated to the actual conversation at hand: Dr. Jarre's a She, not a He. (I know, I know, sorry)

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